http://www.fem2pt0.com/?p=673

Threaded discussion from #fem2 twittercast, 1/18/2009

This transcript attempts to reorder the tweets of the twittercast into threads. Apologies for any misunderstandings. For the raw data, go to search.twitter.com.

• Fem2pt0 good evening, everyone! time to get this twittercast started: what issues should we cover at Fem2.0?
• GloPan: Fair Pay, obviously. And healthcare, work-family balance, how women are depicted in the media…
  • nes49: Would case studies on how GloPan’s topics get pushed through web 2.0 channels be appropriate?
• MadamaAmbi: if I were going to be in attendance, I would want to discuss how to make a movement 2.0
  • blogdiva @MadamaAmbi “how to make a movement” is really a good topic. i have no idea how that is “instigated” or if it can be, for that matter
    • MadamaAmbi @blogdiva I don’t think it can be instigatged, but it can be propagated!!!
  • Jillmz re: how to make a movement-it’s amazing the different ways that can happen-many routes to expression/activism, might depend on issue
• ktdagroovecat: @fem2pt0 generational divide! says the resident fem2.0 millennial :)
  • GloPan @ktdagroovecat digital divide, cultural divide…
• Luci_Kali: perhaps what to anticipate in the 1st 100 days of Obama’s administration in regards to women’s rights, health
• cameronreilly @blogdiva I launched a podcast about feminism last year but it didn’t catch up
• Jillmz I’m interested in rules of engagement: how do we not talk past each other, as well as people w/whom we’re disagreeing on an issue
• veronicaeye But do want to know what media topics peeps want coverd
  • nes49 @veronicaeye – media topics? would the (relatively) new “mom’s spaces” appearing on newspaper sites count? a venue for feminism?
• MadamaAmbi @Fem2pt0 this is so important…I have much to say on this…
• GloPan I am constantly amazed by how many women’s blogs and ventures there are on the Internet, all seemingly doing it on their own.
  • MadamaAmbi @GloPan yep…we need to unify in order to leverage our power
    • dianamarie @MadamaAmbi Excellent! Alliances must be formed across divdes to make a real difference for all women!
  • blogdiva @GloPan what do you mean by that? i mean, blogs were supposed to be about doing it on your own w/o corporate leashes
  • Jillmz I agree w/ @GloPan re: how many individual blogs/ventures; its independence that entices us to speak out, but how can we find others
  • GloPan Blogs should be independent, but single voices speaking on different things not as powerful as many speaking about 1 thing at once.
• Jillmz I think Fem2pt0 is a great example of gravitating for better, more impact (we hope, right!?) but what else can we be doing?
• FaithFeminism @Fem2pt0 What new (tech-y?) methods can we utilize to connect feminist leaders with “grassroots” activists?
• Jillmz making alliances goes back to last week in that it can feel risky to step up when it might involve giving up some independence
• MadamaAmbi I’m getting a little ahead of this convo, but we need a 5 yr plan & a 10 yr plan
• blogdiva we also need to talk about money. raising money for this event has been like pulling teeth because people don’t want to fund feminists
  • Jillmz @blogdiva money issue indeed; here in Ohio, trying to get women in leadership stuff going, also like pulling teeth
  • myrnatheminx @Jillmz Try Nevada!
• GloPan Campaign idea: For one week, we all agree to reach out to 3 blogs a day and invite them to Fem2.0 site.
  • GloPan Of course, there needs to be more substance on issues on the Fem2.0 site.
  • HopeChat @GloPan good evening, I think that is a good idea
• MadamaAmbi @blogdiva that’s why we need to workaround this reality and stream/video/webcam
  • GloPan @MadamaAmbi We are working on it – I think it’s going to happen, just can’t promise at this point.
  • blogdiva @MadamaAmbi i have to double check but am sure webcasting is being taken care of
• MadamaAmbi can we talk about why ppl are afraid of feminists/feminism?
  • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi please do
    • MadamaAmbi @Tifanei I mean, as an ongoing public forum, make this a topic…???…
  • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi I took a Gender & New Media class where we addressed this question. The answers were infuriating, but good lesson learned.
  • MadamaAmbi we’re in a double-bind as feminists. We are trying to take power without upsetting anyone…!!!…
    • GloPan @MadamaAmbi But there are also those who believe that upsetting people is the way to get people to pay attention.
    • GloPan I think the fearlessness about upsetting people is a part of the feminism brand that a lot of people don’t like.
      • MadamaAmbi @GloPan women being put in foreground is upsetting enuf! Don’t have to work at it,imo!
      • MadamaAmbi @GloPan agree! But I am fearless, that’s a fact. I have nothing to lose.
      • dianamarie @GloPan While fearlessness of upsetting people is ok for other activist causes it’s so “anti-woman” that with feminism it burns more.
        • GloPan @dianamarie So true. I worked on the breast implant issue for a while, and the derision over the feminist aspects of it totally GloPan ovrshadowed/buried the real threat to women’s health and their families’ economic security
        • MadamaAmbi @dianamarie you make a really important point…could be a topic all by itself…breaking the archetype open
    • Tifanei personally I am not trying to GET power I think I’m trying to stop people who think they can allocate my already established .
      • ktdagroovecat @Tifanei right on
      • MadamaAmbi @Tifanei what’s wrong with getting/having power?
      • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi Nothing at all. I am just not scared of anyone being intimidated by it. My concern is the aforementioned.
• Jillmz so…there’s communication & engagement; participation & funding; issues – maybe those are general categories for topics?
• ktdagroovecat re: topics: need to offer lessons on “online activism,” not just giving money, but using fb page as soapbox & being thought leader
  • MadamaAmbi @ktdagroovecat yeah, and here is where I ask all of you to check out Feminist Advisory Board for Obama on Facebook
    • ktdagroovecat @MadamaAmbi the reactions i get when i “get all feminist” on my fb page are amazing. ppl shouldn’t be afraid to talk to their networksktdagroovecat @MadamaAmbi about what they believe in… what else is there to talk about? but it’s that fear thing again.
      • Tifanei @ktdagroovecat We really need to alleviate the fear of the damn word. Alleviate the ignorance behind the fear
  • nes49 @ktdagroovecat. Yes.
• GloPan How do we get the millions of women online to become activists? They have the opinions, but just are not connected to the issues.
  • Jillmz @GloPan that kind of thing has come up when issues involve mothers but the group has many women who are not mothers
    • blogdiva @Jillmz oh lord have mercy … that focusing on mothers is taking the attention away from them (or something like that) :P
    • Jillmz @blogdiva LOL I know I know!! lol
    • Jillmz @Jillmz but to be fair…. now… :) I don’t blog my momness a ton, but when solid feminist issues come up…and I throw in my perspective, which is as a mom (cuz I am one), I get some really hateful stuff back; we need to be helpful
    • Jillmz that’s the whole point of engaging: so we BUILD on our different perspectives, make the activism stronger, more universal
    • GloPan @Jillmz Ha! We need to be saints!
      • Jillmz @GloPan LOL You mean…we aren’t? :)
      • MadamaAmbi @GloPan maybe we need to teach/learn how to argue productively…
        • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi and isn’t strong rhetoric the key to everything
          • ktdagroovecat @Tifanei absolutely! can’t be afraid to talk about it, not with anyone. first step is always communication, i think
          • MadamaAmbi @Tifanei dunno. I didn’t study rhetoric, studied psychotherapy, drama, lit, voice
          • Jillmz some conversations w/potential allies regarding race have had to deal w/some of these issues of communication, yes?
          • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi well I am… and it is. In my opinion of course. It’s how any face of a movement did it.
          • MadamaAmbi @Tifanei I’m listening!
          • Tifanei @MadamaAmbi well it depends on which theory you want to consider. All the good ones use relativity to connect with anyone.
          • Tifanei the strongest, most influential argument. It’s the art of influential speech. How can you fail if you’ve mastered an art???
          • MadamaAmbi @Tifanei sounds reasonable. Can u recommend a book/text/resource to study?
  • MadamaAmbi @GloPan one at a time, relationship by relationship, creating connections across issues, cross-pollinating, what we R doing right here
  • Jillmz some of this goes back to how do we engage w/each other, communication, so we don’t talk past each other
  • myrnatheminx Women have to be courageous enough to jump into things regardless of level of “expertise” We talk ourselves out of things
    • MadamaAmbi @myrnatheminx good point!!! great point!!!
  • Jillmz I was just looking over the sessions listed right now – it is AMBITIOUS!
    • MadamaAmbi @Jillmz r you referring to last Sunday’s tweetcast? #fem2 -
      • Jillmz @MadamaAmbi no I was looking at the website for the conference
    • GloPan @Jillmz The program is ambitious because the potential is limitless! #fem2 -
      • Jillmz @GloPan agree completely – untapped and unrealized should be thrown in there too
    • nes49 @jillmz http://www.fem2pt0.com/?page_id=2 does seem pretty detailed. What help is needed from us tonight?
    • ktdagroovecat @nes49 @jillmz i think tonight’s cast is more to make sure everyone’s issue is heard — most important topics sure to be addressed
  • terrizsoloceo @3keyscoach @blogdiva is doing a feminist conversation thing #fem2 I think!
  • GloPan Join Fem2pt0 Twittercast on Tweetchat, room #fem2
  • Tifanei You consider how the audience is going to interpret your message. You consider why they would have different interps and come up with
  • Jillmz fems, I need to turn in – getting excited for 2/2 thanks for engaging, letting me engage :)
    • MadamaAmbi @Jillmz yep, I think my brain is over tweet capacity!
  • GloPan @nerdette Yes, let’s end the Mommy Wars! #fem2
  • GloPan Thanks everyone. Same time next week: Why men should be feminists. And we can have one more nite before confrence. Ideas anyone?
  • dianamarie As much as I’m loving the #fem2 discussion it’s time to either work or hit the sack. Haven’t decided which, but either way… ‘night tweeps!